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Post by FrontmanHCRealms on Feb 19, 2007 22:22:56 GMT -5
To Frontman, I did say who I was pissed at about Ro-Gan's banning and I will continue to do so here. I will not however say things that are inappropriate or insulting without merit. What I will do is continue to state my opinions here without fear of being banned or having any other actions taken against me at realms. And in case you don't know I am Proteus there. And after my last banning will respect most of the mods enough to let them know how I feel before talking shit here. The whole Ro-Gan/Shel thing is a different then the comments that shel has received, that is unless Ro-Gan himself has made them, and if anyone here wants to fess up I will be at both WWE as well as Chicago and with the exception of Ro-Gan will kick anyone's ass who wants to be a wiseguy. But I will not "choose" a message board to post on. I will remain a member of HcRealms and Rule3 for as long as humanly possible and will not back down in my opinion about the initial bannings that started this all. In short you can silence voices on Realms all you want but for me to be afraid of my Realms status just because you are watching is something I will not do. I respect you in so many ways and have never had a problem with you at all and will be more than happy to help you deal with people who talk shit about Shel, but I will not PM Asz, but will be more than happy to PM any other mod with any problems I have. If I am going to get banned for saying this then I guess it was meant to be and I will miss everyone at realms. But every mod here has made a choice to come here and we are not posting on Realms, so keep that in mind. Even if I knew who you were at the Realms, I wouldn't ban you from there for things said here. Hell, I don't have the right to do so. If I banned folks just on whim like some of you like to accuse us of, there would be a number of folks gone. But my coming here is to finally get this finished. Shel is my friend and has been hurt by some pretty evil things. Considering that time and again we have to tell SOME (and I do mean SOME) of the ILL Ramas to back off and what they post is very inappropriate, I apologize that I thought if was one of you who would send that to Shel. I jumped the gun, and that's why I came here versus PMing/posting on HCRealms. But you know what? It isn't a leap when ill members keep joking about child molestation and gay bash for us to think one of you would find it funny to send that IM to Shel. And it's exactly this type of situation we have been trying to avoid for months. This is why we try to give slight Warning Points to keep it clean. But how is anal humor, gay bashing, child porn, rape, and molsetation "funny?" All not funny. How would you all feel if it was your brother who was molested? Or your girlfriend who was once raped? How about if a good friend is gay? Think you might be hurt to see folks you call friends making fun of those subjects? Guess what, gang. There ARE HCRealms members who have dealt with that living hell. Whose brothers WERE molested by a parent. That a friend HAS been raped. And that they have friends who are gay. But some keep on going, keep pushing that limit, instead of taking a one point warning and saying "Ok, my bad. Sorry." When is it too much, and crosses the line? Maybe when someone has been hurt enough that they go "You know what? I'm done with both sites." Look, we have been trying to keep HCRealms clean. We've worked hard on building a strong membership base. But when parents see jokes about anal sex, molestation, and rape; guess what. Odds are that membership base will go down big time. And don't give me that shit that kids get "exposed to it anyway." Just because the world can be a fucked up place that a site about a Superhero game has to be just as fucked. If that means we need to ban people, we will. But speaking as a person who ONCE WAS BANNED FROM HCREALMS because I lost my cool, we all need to learn when to toe-the-line and knock it off. So the choice is all up to you guys now. If you want to keep being jerks around HCRealms, to keep calling someone gay and thinking its funny, to keep pushing at mods when they tell you to knock it off until you piss them off, fine. We'll be forced to eventually perma-ban anyone's ass so fast your head will swim. Who wants to keep hurting people they call friends? But if you actually meant what you said when you all started this site, that you are out to have fun, then you can have fun without being hurtful. Choice is up to you guys. Its a handful who ruins it for everyone else. See you around the Realms. Front |
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Post by Fantastic_Four on Feb 19, 2007 22:25:38 GMT -5
To Frontman, I did say who I was pissed at about Ro-Gan's banning and I will continue to do so here. I will not however say things that are inappropriate or insulting without merit. What I will do is continue to state my opinions here without fear of being banned or having any other actions taken against me at realms. And in case you don't know I am Proteus there. And after my last banning will respect most of the mods enough to let them know how I feel before talking shit here. The whole Ro-Gan/Shel thing is a different then the comments that shel has received, that is unless Ro-Gan himself has made them, and if anyone here wants to fess up I will be at both WWE as well as Chicago and with the exception of Ro-Gan will kick anyone's ass who wants to be a wiseguy. But I will not "choose" a message board to post on. I will remain a member of HcRealms and Rule3 for as long as humanly possible and will not back down in my opinion about the initial bannings that started this all. In short you can silence voices on Realms all you want but for me to be afraid of my Realms status just because you are watching is something I will not do. I respect you in so many ways and have never had a problem with you at all and will be more than happy to help you deal with people who talk shit about Shel, but I will not PM Asz, but will be more than happy to PM any other mod with any problems I have. If I am going to get banned for saying this then I guess it was meant to be and I will miss everyone at realms. But every mod here has made a choice to come here and we are not posting on Realms, so keep that in mind. Even if I knew who you were at the Realms, I wouldn't ban you from there for things said here. Hell, I don't have the right to do so. If I banned folks just on whim like some of you like to accuse us of, there would be a number of folks gone. But my coming here is to finally get this finished. Shel is my friend and has been hurt by some pretty evil things. Considering that time and again we have to tell SOME (and I do mean SOME) of the ILL Ramas to back off and what they post is very inappropriate, I apologize that I thought if was one of you who would send that to Shel. I jumped the gun, and that's why I came here versus PMing/posting on HCRealms. I dont see how you could think that would be one of us. Shel is a part of our group, and will always be our friend. |
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Post by JKL on Feb 19, 2007 22:31:41 GMT -5
This is just me playing Devil's Advocate, as I'm wont to do, but with the anti-HCR Mod sentiment over here, it wouldn't have been a gargantuan leap to reach that. Plus, as some of the posts have proven, not everyone on this site is on great terms with Shel.
Regrettable, really.
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Post by Ro-gan on Feb 19, 2007 22:33:25 GMT -5
Normally I'm with you, man, but you're gonna have to reign it in a little if you want to be able to come back to HCR. |
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Post by JKL on Feb 19, 2007 22:37:29 GMT -5
Ro-Gan, keep in mind I'm saying this as an asocial, misanthropic asshole.
You're off your rocker. Not all people are scumbags. Sure, no one is perfect, but that's no reason not to have friends at all.
Like the cliche says, No man is an island.
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Post by Ro-gan on Feb 19, 2007 22:42:43 GMT -5
Naw. That was indeed an insult. I sent her pretty much the same thing two weeks ago on her Yahoo Messenger but I guess she doesn't check that anymore.
Kit, like Aaron, was what I considered a friend. Funny how friends can easily backstab one another when it comes to joint hilarity and making fun of someone or insulting someone when they can't publically respond.
I would have said a lot worse about her and how I feel about getting betrayed by yet another friend, but she still has "friends" out there that she hasn't feasted on yet when blood gets in the water and causes her frenzy behavior like she did with me.
I know I should probably step back and let you vent whatever you want, but I can't. I WILL NOT let you villify me for NOTHING! You are being an arrogant, whiny dickhead now. I had absolutely nothing to do with what went on. You know what, forget it. Thank YOU for teaching me what its like to have a friend stab you in the back, Luke.
I haven't used Yahoo! or AIM since I got that IM calling me a nigger lover because someone didn't like what I said.
Really?! I did something wrong to earn a whole whopping 25 Warning Points in one fell swoop?! Oh, that's right! I told Aaron in a PRIVATE PM why I thought he was harassing me and then I told him to go $#%# himself. When GroovyBoy or Gacy or Duane or Goose or any number of my friends do something to tick me off or just deserve it I tell them to go fuck themselves. And, when I screw up they do the same to me. No problem. That's how I know they are friends. They'll slap me upside the head when I need it and vice versa.
Even if Groovy or Gacy or Duane had the power to give me WPs or Ban me I'm sure they wouldn't become a power monger and do so. They'd call me up on the phone and talk about it and work it out. Funny how immature and girlish Aaron is that he takes the woman's way out and just resorts to absolute punishments because he doesn't have the cajones to speak to me face-to-face/phone-to-phone.
Hmmmm... oh wait. Duane does have the power to give me WPs and/or Ban me. Yet he doesn't. Why?! Oh, yeah. Because he's what you'd call a true friend. |
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Post by Ro-gan on Feb 19, 2007 22:45:45 GMT -5
I'd love to read the Mod boards...
You're all fair game there. Especially people like me who stand up for the little guys. Especially people who are flamboyant and outspoken. |
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Post by Fantastic_Four on Feb 19, 2007 22:49:47 GMT -5
Ro-gan! Please stop attacking people.
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Post by Ro-gan on Feb 19, 2007 22:54:06 GMT -5
Yeah. I understand. I dont understand why you would write that about someone. What has Kitsushel done to deserve that?
Just ask MSU who gets quite a few anti-homosexual posts and PMs thrown his way more often than not. But, those prejudiced people have nothing happen to them by the Mods except get their posts deleted. But, someone makes a dirty joke and the WPs go a'flying.
Nice to know a person can get a handslap for wishing another man dead because he's gay. But, tell a dirty little diddy about the Farmer's Daughter and prepare to be Banned. |
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Post by Ro-gan on Feb 19, 2007 23:02:57 GMT -5
Shel is too classy of a lady to point out she got this IM on Christmas Eve, of all days. You serious? That is some totally fucked up heartless shit. Omg I'm starting to cry for you Shel, Christmas eve is supposed to be a happy day. If it was Ro-gan, I'm glad I never liked him.
Don't be pinning hate-monger crap on me just because I've got a personal beef with Michele right now.
I was one of the first to hear about it because she told me about it soon after it happened. I can't remember if she called me or IM'ed me about it.
I may believe she back-stabbed me, but I'd still take a bullet for her or any one of you. Even that musicman198420. It's in my nature to be self-sacrificing. I'd take a bullet for a total stranger if it meant saving their life.
Why do you think it hurts so much when someone I thought was a friend betrays me? Because I wouldn't do something like that. But, be warned... when I am betrayed I'll break out the big guns to avenge my honor. No holds barred. |
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Post by Ro-gan on Feb 19, 2007 23:11:20 GMT -5
The scary thing is that most of you wouldn't say one tenth of the crap we've had thrown our way if you had to say it looking any of us straight in the eye.
But then you overstepped your bounds with me. I knew if I went you and I would get into a huge verbal argument that would very much turn physical and ruin the whole Clix For A Cure Event for everyone.
I told Duane I wasn't going because I didn't feel like dealing with you. Because, if anyone would say something to anyone, it would be me. And, I've got the cajones to back my words up with deeds if necessary when someone else throws the first punch. And, you seem like the type of person that would throw first. One would think you were secretly a Philadelphia Eagles fan instead of a Bears fan. |
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Post by DeltaPi1049 on Feb 19, 2007 23:13:48 GMT -5
Yeah, this is getting a tad out of hand. Why are we threatening people again? I dont think there is much we could do despite what we think about our own inter-wangs. I know my inter-wang is fucking huge, and I could kill all of you with my pinky! Of course in real life, I couldnt even beat up my dog. So if you got a point, make it. Otherwise, enough with the threats, they make you sound dumb.
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Post by Shel on Feb 19, 2007 23:14:53 GMT -5
Go check the Warnings Thread on HCRealms. I was a page or two after I got Banned. You got on there on posted that ReZ and myself got ourselves Banned because we did something wrong.
Really?! I did something wrong to earn a whole whopping 25 Warning Points in one fell swoop?! Oh, that's right! I told Aaron in a PRIVATE PM why I thought he was harassing me and then I told him to go $#%# himself. When GroovyBoy or Gacy or Duane or any number of my friends do something to tick me off or just deserve it I tell them to go fuck themselves.
Even if Groovy or Gacy or Duane had the power to give me WPs or Ban me I'm sure they wouldn't become a power monger and do so. They'd call me up on the phone and talk about it and work it out. Funny how immature and girlish Aaron is that he takes the woman's way out and just resorts to absolute punishments because he doesn't have the cajones to speak to me face-to-face/phone-to-phone.
Hmmmm... oh wait. Duane does have the power to give me WPs and/or Ban me. Yet he doesn't. Why?! Oh, yeah. Because he's what you'd call a true friend.
You did do something wrong, can you not see that?
Besides that, if you can say all of that shit about because of one post saying you were wrong, then you're a lost cause, for real. I love ya Luke, but you're pissed at something I have no control over and can't do anything about. I don't deserve the shit you're flinging at me. AT ALL. |
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Post by Ro-gan on Feb 19, 2007 23:17:46 GMT -5
Why would they ban you for saying that? Its not like communist Russia, where you got killed for having an opinion.
Ever since Kevin (Draddog) stepped down from 'Realms and Typhon and AZS took over HCRealms has become a police state.
Any threads that speak negatively about WizKids and/or HCR are torn down. Any posts that speak negatively about WizKids and/or HCR are torn deleted and the poster given either Negative REP or WPs for being negative. |
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Post by JKL on Feb 19, 2007 23:20:46 GMT -5
I've seen plenty of Negative threads about Wizkids that haven't been torn down or given warnings.
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Post by DeltaPi1049 on Feb 19, 2007 23:22:02 GMT -5
In Russia, Thread Posts you!
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